Eric Krasno is a music addict. Don’t trip on me; that’s what it says in his official bio. He makes music everyday—it doesn’t matter if he’s at home in New York City, or out on tour with his band Soulive. Between Soulive and his production crew, The Fyre Dept., Eric has worked with mega-stars like Stevie Wonder, Chaka Khan, The Fugees, Dave Mathews, The Rolling Stones, Talib Kweli, Wu-Tang Clan, The Beatnuts, The Roots, John Scofield, Joshua Redman, Derek Trucks, Robert Randolph and many others.
“I'm lucky that I can do what I love as my job, and I plan to do it for the rest of my life if possible,” Krasno confirms. And of course, another key element in his plan is Mackie gear. As a long time fan of Mackie mixers and recording equipment, Eric and Soulive have most recently been recording up a storm with an Onyx 1640 small-format mixer, an Onyx 800R mic preamp, and the legendary HR 626 studio monitors.
Mackie’s humble interviewer had, shall we say, “a headache” on the day of the interview, and was in no mood to beat around the bush with this interview. First angry question:
That Onyx 1640 mixer is coming in handy?
Oh yeah, for sure. We’ve been using it for several different setups. Lately we’ve been using it as part of a mobile recording rig for a writing project Soulive’s been working on up at my mom’s house in Vermont.
Is any of that work gonna show up on a record someday, or just stay as demos?
Yeah, we got a lot of good stuff at the Vermont sessions. Its funny, because we originally intended it to be a get-away-from-it-all writing session, but the sound we got from the Onyx ended up being so good, we’re gonna use some of those demo tracks as masters. We’ll probably go into the studio to re-cut the drums and a lot of the vocals, due to the acoustical challenges of recording in my mother’s house of course—not because of the Onyx.
Hey, it worked for Led Zeppelin…
We got a really good vibe up there and it came out sounding really good! We want to bring the Onyx 1640 on the road next time we go out, because it is such an excellent front-end and mixer for a small portable studio.
Glad ya like it Kras, but The Onyx series of premium analog mixers ain’t just a one trick pony, pardner.
Oh yeah I know! Our original intent was to use the 1640 to record live shows, which we did. Now we want another so we can rig up an in-ear monitor mix too. Before we go out on the next long tour, we’re gonna do a couple of days of just setups and rehearsals, so we can get the Onyx dialed in for both applications.
How has it been going from traditional stage monitors to using the in-ear setup? Did it creep you out at first?
It’s cool. We’ve been doing a lot more vocal stuff, and that’s where the in-ear setup really shines. You get the clarity of the vocals, which really helps the singing—like you can actually hear yourself. (laughs) We’re a pretty loud band onstage because we just like to hear what’s happening for real. The universal law of PAs dictates the louder the band, the more vocals get lost from the floor wedges and side-fills. When you up the gain of the monitors to compensate, the whole thing just gets worse! So with the in-ears, we can actually reduce our onstage volume, which just makes everything clearer.
Is it weird having those things in your ears? They make my ears itch like hell!
It is a little weird at first. To be honest, most of time I wind up taking one out because I like to hear some of the “space,” ya know what I mean? We’ve been working more ambient mics into the mixes—we’ll actually have a couple of mics onstage pointing at nothing in particular.
What about your studio?
I have an Onyx 800R [8 channel premium mic preamp], which is working out great. I’ve been using it for all my drum programming. I separate the eight outs from my MPC and go straight into the 800R, and it sounds great—the 800R gives everything a nice analog warmth. I’m using it for vocals too, and that’s where the sound of the preamps really critical.
Don’t let me stop ya—tell us about the Onyx mic preamps!
They definitely sound fantastic. I can totally tell the difference when compared to the mic pres on the Digi 002—the Onyx 800 just blows it away. They sound sweet no matter what I put into them: drums, guitar or vocals. I especially like the Instrument input on the front of the 800R. I just plug my guitar in and instantly have a great sound.
You’re a guitar player of some renown. What instruments do you favor these days?
My main axe is an Ibanez AS-200, and I use that for pretty much everything I do. But I’ve got a bunch of random guitars, Strats and stuff like that, but I always come back to the Ibanez for both live and in the studio. I’ve also been getting into bass a great deal, and I just got a ’74 Fender P-Bass.
I hear a hint of effects pedals in your playing.
Oh yeah, I use tons of stuff! There is a company called Pigtronics (www.pigtronix.com) that makes some great effects, and I use all of 'em. A Tube Screamer is something I always use, as well as effects by Maxon and Godlyke (www.godlyke.com). I’m pretty into the DigiTech Whammy pedal these days too.
What about amps?
I use Mesa/Boogie Lonestars —they’re great, I love ‘em.
Boogies give me anxiety. They have too many knobs, and the more I twist ‘em, the worse the sound gets!
I was totally on that exact same page! But the Lonestar is more basic in its setup. It has two channels, and each channel has its own set of controls that are identical. I hated all those pull-knobs and switches on previous Boogies—I was more like “just give me a bass, treble, mid and volume knob, and forget the 17-position switches and bias adjustments!”
Word around the office is that you have a nice pair of Mackie HR626s…
Yeah, I’m lovin’ those! Originally, I had them in my home studio, but I really liked to bump ‘em hard (laughs) which didn’t make me very popular with the neighbors. We have them in our Soulive studio now, and they’re just fantastic. They really give you the full spectrum of sound. You can really feel the bass without a sub, and the mids and highs are just super-clear.
Do you do final mixes on the 626’s, or just use them for tracking?
Oh yeah, I’ve done plenty of mixes with the 626s. I usually go back and forth between the 626s and some NS-10s. You know, for a second opinion! (laughs)
So you find them to be accurate?
Yes, especially for hip-hop and pop-type stuff. The 626s give a good approximation of how the track is gonna sound in the clubs. They enhance the low end just a bit, which is why I like to switch between them and the NS-10s. For more jazzy and rock stuff, I tend to go with the NS-10s, because if you can make your track sound good on those, it’ll sound good on anything from a walkman to virgin vinyl. Of course, when I wanna crank it up and just enjoy the sound, I hit up the Mackie’s. I’d really like to get the smaller HR624s so I can retire the NS-10s!
I just did a track with Xzibit, and I borrowed some 15” subs from Planet To Planet, which the Soulive studio is part of, and put them under the 824s. The sound was just insane—Xzibit was just going nuts!
What else have you been working on?
Well, I’ve been in the studio the last few days working on a track with Talib Kweli for his new album. We’ve been working on it for the last month, and just finished some mixes last night. I’ve also just produced a track with Talib and a super-big artist, whose name I cant mention yet, but I’ll let you know as soon as I can go public. I’m co-producing and playing bass and guitar, and basically filling in the gaps.
[HMMM… BIGGIE’S DEAD… MEAT LOAF AND THAT GUY FROM BLUES TRAVELER LOST A BUNCH OF WEIGHT… WHO IS “BIG” THESE DAYS? WE DON’T LIKE ARTISTS KEEPING SECRETS FROM US.]
Soulive worked on a song for R&B singer Mario. Through Mario, I met Dianne Warren (super-hit pop ballad songwriter for Celine Dion, Toni Braxton, Mariah Carey, etc) and now we’re working with her, producing the songs she writes We have a production team called the Fyre Dept. consisting of myself and Adam Deitch, and some of our other friends.
Ever just get down by yourself, let the licks fly?
Of course! I’m working on my solo album that’s a bit more rock- and soul-focused than the stuff I do with Soulive. I’m playing and singing everything, and I have some cool guests doing their thing. I guess I’m just trying to stay busy.
Well, idle hands can be the devil’s tools. Sounds like the musician’s life suits you.
Yeah (laughs) I don’t mind it. I pretty much play music or produce it all the time. Soulive is going to be taking a bit of time off from the road in the fall to make the new album, and I’m gonna finish up a lot of these other projects I’ve been talking about. So we’ll be in the studio a lot over the next six months—but I’m looking forward to it … I love making records!
Any tips on how to approximate your lifestyle?
Make music you love. The music that that people love to listen to is music that the musicians enjoyed creating. If you’re straining to make something popular, and your heart isn’t in it, it may wind up being popular, but it won’t last.
That’s all well and good Eric, but you guys had to be more on the ball than that guy Grateful Dead-dancing at every show to get where you are, right?
Oh yeah, the business side; that’s a whole other ball game. You still have to love doing it. And we never really stopped. We never really doubted ourselves—we just did it. You’re gonna have successes and failures, and we’ve had our share of both.
Yeah, that Soulive Glitter Metal album—big mistake!
(laughs) Yeah, that one didn’t too well—but we loved making it!
Eric Krasno is currently working on his first solo album, as well as all sorts of secret plans he could not fully divulge with a lowly Fresh Fish writer. Check out his latest noodling at: www.myspace.com/ekraz